I'd like some oppinions

[mugurel]

I'd appreciate some oppinions for

http://www.ypson.com/

What do you think about the idea, the method, the prices and so on ...

Thank you

[Corey]

Hi. Well to an end consumer that seal has zero value so I would estimate the value to developers to be equivalent. As for the idea, it's too broad in scope to offer any tangible value to anyone specific. The web site is full of red flags which would scare off anyone serious from the obvious like the many spelling and grammar errors throughout the site such as "The first 10 clients gets" and "Getting Trusted" (a phrase no english speaking person would ever use) to the more subtle such as the keyword stuffing and footer, "YPSON and "The trust way" are names owned by Mugurel Dragusin". No offense but that's hardly a confidence builder.

Certainly no one serious would purchase this service from that web site as it is. As for pricing, it is way, way, way too high. The services you are offering, as they currently exist at that web site, are worth $20-$30 per year maximum. No more than that. Hope that helps.

P.S. Don't get angry with the criticism, honesty is what I offer and that has more value than anything if your goal is to improve your idea. Don't get discouraged, get motivated.

Corey Milner
Creative Director, Indigo Rose Software

[mugurel]

Yes Corey, it really helps !

I appreciate your honesty, really, this is what I wanted to hear.

- i agree with the grammar errors
- as the price, why do you think is so way high as is per year and there to verify a software takes some time to assure it's clean, as i don't do any reverse engineering to find out what is going on.


I will consider your oppinions. Thank you !

[Intrigued]

I speak strictly from the standpoint of an end-user on this topic.

What Corey says I believe is right on target. The typos and the style in which the typos are happening reminds me of 'spoofed' web sites. The ones that try to dupe (trick) you out of your user name and password. Definitely bad!

The pricing structure reminds me of Microsoft's charges for driver certification, costly.

What I do like...

The judicious use of Flash (not to much, not to little).

I like the color scheme.

Finally... I know folks that deal in the medical records business... the point I am bring up is that gaining trust, especially from business folks... can take time and can be an uphill (hard) battle, at least at first.

And...

In this case I believe you do not want to shoot to low (yes, to low implies that the service is not all that it is cracked up to be (not as good as it is said to be). I would try the on volume approach. In another words... less money on each customer but you then can make big monies on a large customer (client) base! Instead of trying to get a few customers at a much higher price.

By the way... did I tell you I like your Flash graphic on the right side?

Summing it up...

Building trust is something I believe you need to hit hard (work on) right from the get go!

Sincerely,

[Corey]

Well first of all that isn't the value you present to people. To a consumer the product being sold on your site is not "reverse engineering", it is the certificate itself. Developers will not be keen on the concept of you being a person who has a history of reverse engineering other people's software. I'm not entirely warm on it myself to be frank.

I don't think this is something you could improve to a large enough extent to make it feasible. I'll leave it at that.

Corey Milner
Creative Director, Indigo Rose Software

[mugurel]

This one is for dear Corey and other price related people to say like that


Let me tell you how I computed the price, there, first thing in my mind is that I can't handle too many customers, so from start I want to make a selection. Why I can handle, because all the job is done manually,

I don't use any spyware detection tools such AdAware or others like it (if were then of course price would be way high for something any user can do).

I am using monitoring tools which helps me detect any activity the software is doing on the computer.

Monitoring consist in ongoing use and testing of the software, I have to use all software's functions (menus, buttons, everything that can be interacted with). After this step it comes the environmental testing where the application could react if something on system changes or on a certain user activity, I have to do that too.

Then, the software must run on a period of time wich can take a week of runtime in order to ensure ther aren't any "by-time" activating functions.

All these, makes me use my experience and time (time, resources such as electricity, internet). Let's take the 700$ package:

A company, has a product and has like 5 updates per year right ? Every single version would need an ONE week ongoing testing, in total would become somewhere around 5 weeks. (I have to mention, I don't consider the ex testing to the ex version, the new ones are being tested as like being first time).

If we split 700$ in 5 parts we get 140$ per week for 5 weeks in a year. If we split 700$ in 12 we get 58.3$/month.

So as comparing the work involved and the assurance there is clean software I believe is quite fair price.

When a user sees the seal they know that software has been manually tested for malicious code !


Thank you for your attention

[Corey]

There is no assurance whatsoever for a consumer using your service. Your pricing strategy is not solid, you can't expect your clients to *split* your salary or pay an "Electricity" fee. BTW Do you have liability insurance? Without liability insurance you are of course legally liable for financial costs, including lost revenue, due to anything which appears to have leaked through your service, as well as any legal fees arising from the process to your client, i.e. if a supplier loses an afternoon of computer service due to something they can convince a judge you missed, you may owe them $10,000-$20,000 dollars or more.

If they have to hire someone to come in and fix their system, you would also be liable for all those costs.

Corey Milner
Creative Director, Indigo Rose Software

[mugurel]

No, I am planning to build my trust in time and the proof will be the clients and the customers of the clients who will never get a spyware out of an YPSon certified software.

-- There is a statement about i cannot guarantee at 100% it is safe, nobody can! A contract between me and software developer and a contract (terms and conditions) between me and the visiting user to the software company.

Is slow and hard but possible and I'm here for it !

The benefit of software developer: they gain more customers, as those with "intention to download but not sure" may turn into customers, because they trusted the software trial more at beginning and thus greater chances to download.

The benefit for end-user: Many users don't crawl google before downloading a software but they still ask themselves if theya re sure to download and install a certain software so here the certificate comes, to give more trust, as the online version of software to be downloaded has actually been checked.

I know the best way to build trust is to never certify a software that contains spyware and never accept any other variants from software developers than just deep checking and testing, slowly there will be more and more that will see the YPSon certified software is really safe so this is the way I consider right, build trust by customer satisfaction !

[mugurel]

Even those like hackersafe and such, can't guarantee what they certify is 100% safe and I haven't read their terms but I'm sure if I do I would find some disclaimers.

On the certificate I also advise user to download the software if they need it and that i'm not responsible for what software does, it's the user part to assure the downloaded software won't interfere with it's computer software&hardware configuration, resulting in damages of any kind.


Is that simple, me testing a software and offering a certificate for what i tested, this in no way means the user should not be cautious online.

[Corey]

If you are not responsible then the service has no value to consumers or developers. No one will pay money for that.

Saying that, "the proof will be the clients and the customers of the clients who will never get a spyware out of an YPSon certified software" is not assuring. We all know that problems *always* arise in digital systems. Simply denying that fact, and then not having any contingency in place, is not going to make anyone confident in your ability to deal with the reality of the software testing process. Quite the opposite.

Do you have a valid business license?

Corey Milner
Creative Director, Indigo Rose Software

[mugurel]

Yes I do have a valid business license of course.

[Corey]

OK. What classification is that license?

Corey Milner
Creative Director, Indigo Rose Software

[mugurel]

Computer Programming and consuntancy.

[Corey]

Hi. No, I meant what type of license, not which type of business. Every country has different classifications of business licenses. When you applied for your license you would have been required to specify this for them. It is written on your license as something like "type", "class", or "classification". Take a look at your license, what does it say?

Corey Milner
Creative Director, Indigo Rose Software

[mugurel]

Can't find what you are saying, just what my license is for .. and is for what I told you in last posts.