Remember me? I finally found that copy proetection I needed!

[FBlanch]

I haven't posted here in about two years I think. My last few posts were about the journey for the ultimate copy protection. I found it!!!!!! My advice to all is to keep looking. Don't use common methods or companies that use heavy advertising for well known copy-protections. Whatever you use.... don't tell anyone! That is the key. When any popular copy-protection scheme recognized, will be ascended upon like a family of starving eagles from the sky. I couldn't be happier and it's been over a year using this copy-protection. Seek and you will find. Good luck guys.

FBlanch

[MIchaelD]

I haven't posted here in about two years I think. My last few posts were about the journey for the ultimate copy protection. I found it!!!!!! My advice to all is to keep looking. Don't use common methods or companies that use heavy advertising for well known copy-protections. Whatever you use.... don't tell anyone! That is the key. When any popular copy-protection scheme recognized, will be ascended upon like a family of starving eagles from the sky. I couldn't be happier and it's been over a year using this copy-protection. Seek and you will find. Good luck guys.

FBlanch

Hmmm? Thanks for sharing.

All seriousness aside, I get the irony of your post. Ya just can't trust anyone, not even the ams forum members

[mike41]

I’ve been beta testing my AMS5 PRO products with copy protect and I am happy to say "very please" with the results.

Here’s the web link http://www.resourcedataproducts.com/


Resource Data Products becomes an Authorized Reseller of HexaLock CD-RX Media and Copy Protection Technology Virtually any Content Type Distributed on CD-R or CD-ROM can now be protected from Illegal Copying and Use.


“We are pleased to be able to offer HexaLock CD-RX, Copy Protectable CD-R media to our customers,� said Ron Hershey, President, Resource Data Products. “HexaLock copy protection solutions have been successfully protecting program files on CD’s since 2001. The fact that HexaLock Copy Protection technology can now be used to protect content files along with program executable files is of keen interest to our customer base. Government, military, academic, commercial and financial institutions all have valuable data on CD’s that they wish to protect.� Mr. Hershey continued, “Now PDF documents, HTML files, AVI and MPEG video files, MP3 audio files and JPG image files, for example, can all be protected on both CD-Rs and CD-ROMs along with executable files. This is an important value added service that we can now offer our clients to help them protect their intellectual property from unauthorized copying and use.�

[Agent Jones]

I insist: Activation Systems are the best...

The way you create them is the secret part

[Corey]

When you are a small target, all security works 100%. Once you become a large target, no security works 100%. This is because success of any security method is a direct quotient of the skill level of those trying to crack it. To be clear, at present, no viable security system in existence is uncrackable. Sure you could make an uncrackable system but it would be too inconvenient for ordinary consumers to use. So it's a balancing act.

To make an informed decision you simply need to look at your books. Security costs should stay in relation to sales margins and support costs. It doesn't pay to over protect and sometimes you just have to let out a little line in order to attract bigger fish. On the other hand it's important to dedicate the appropriate resources to security as things develop, and often you can mitigate financial costs with a little innovation.

Always err on the side of, "what your customer prefers" in a pinch and you will be safe.

Corey Milner
Creative Director, Indigo Rose Software

[FBlanch]

I insist: Activation Systems are the best...

The way you create them is the secret part

You are correct. Activation is very good.

FB

[SUF6NEWBIE]

Encryption with 'media serial' ID verification can help...
you can-not 'duplicate' 'media serials'

Adding to COREY's wise advise..

If your product is being 'cracked'...it could be viewed a 'successfull product'

(twisted way of looking at it...but is a realty)

[JimS]

SUF6NEWBIE, I don’t mean to be argumentative, at least not in a bad way, but is it possible to know what the media serials will be on the final CD-ROMS during development? If not, then it seems that you would be applying some algorithm to the media serial. If that is the case, wouldn’t it be possible for an astute or lucky cracker to replicate the algorithm, for other serial numbers?

[SUF6NEWBIE]

Jim..

Yes the realities of large 'distribution-cd stamping etc' the individual
'media serial' with the known 'data base of media serials' included in the
'detection' can help thwart unauthorised duplication..at runtime at least.

As far as encryption alog's go - or encrypting the product files
on the media..then unlkocked via serial ids and decryption alos.. at runtime.

if the unlocking alos are well disguised..then 'hex reads of files' can still
be reasonably 'unrevealing' etc.
(Having no message box code during detection routines helps out here)

Double or even triple encryption of key files (different alog's etc)

Perhaps not relying on one or two files to pass detection..one can be based
on the next..to continue with the routine..what is worth it and what is not
is the question to balance I 'spose.

Relying just on EXE 'wrappers' is certainly not sufficent these days..

Can only make it harder..nothing is uncrackable as we know

I too believe that Activation techniques are the way of the future
(getting fancier with these, as long as they are robust and Client
friendly enough etc etc).

[SUF6NEWBIE]

Another 'rumour' in the antipiracy world is that Files required
to fully run an installed application will be 'served' across the
internet. The end-user machine purposefully is restricted to
mainly the 'registered retail product' server access' files.

At this stage..who would pay for this way of 'owning a full product'
is up for grabs...
..Only the Big Players would be able to handle the Costs etc.

How to keep the 'purchase price' a low as practicable to encourage
legitime usage is an ongoing challenge.

[Intrigued]

I think this is an excellent way of.... helping the Open Source community as a whole!

Because you know a lot of folks like the idea of a having a completely downloaded application and/or the CD/DVD-ROM of such.

Just like I do not want to lease a vehicle! (Sorry first to those that do such, but to me it's a big waste of money. Like renting an apartment or a house.)

Sorry to rant in the thread. <----<<

[Corey]

Arrow-through-the-head fish!!! Excellent...

Corey Milner
Creative Director, Indigo Rose Software

[Agent Jones]

SUF6NEWBIE, I don’t mean to be argumentative, at least not in a bad way, but is it possible to know what the media serials will be on the final CD-ROMS during development? If not, then it seems that you would be applying some algorithm to the media serial. If that is the case, wouldn’t it be possible for an astute or lucky cracker to replicate the algorithm, for other serial numbers?

That's what the Activation is for: you record all issued Serial Numbers in a database, and the System will match the user's serial to the database's

[JimS]

Wow SUF6NEWBIE, most of what you wrote is very far over my head. It does make sense that large distribution stamping, can provide serial lists before production. Thank you for taking the time to explain it to me further, even if I don’t yet fully comprehend what you wrote. Asking questions is a great way for me to learn.

Also, thanks to Agent Jones, same reason. I’m slowly learning this stuff.

[SUF6NEWBIE]

Jim...sorry if appeard a bit 'techno' (I cant dance by the way !)

generally the idea-s are that you can use the Indigo Rose 'Crypto Plugin'

to 'encrypt' all 'source files' ...include some fancy code to verify that
the 'program' is running from a 'verified serial media'..if we get this far,
then use some more fancy code to 'decrypt' each source file, as it is
needed or accessed...creativity in this area is plenty..

This is a start and can be done with 'minimal cost' .

it goes on from there..outsourcing other protections is always
something to way up...paying some other company to do it for you.

This is just one 'workable idea' out of many possibilities.