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    "RUN AS" permissions

    I know at one time someone suggested that it would be nice to be able to install or run an appliaction with Administrator or a user Admin Permissions.

    Is there a way to do so in Autoplay 5?
    We have many of our users logging in with basic user permissions, and would like to use autoplay as a method to install Updates/New software with "RUN AS" hard coded into the autoplay

    Any help would be great I have a need for that function now.

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    Corey is offline Indigo Rose Staff Alumni
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    I might be missing the point but isn't that the exact reason to have permissions, to exclude basic users from modifying things they don't have permission to modify?

    Corey Milner
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    "Run As"

    Hi AaronCooper,

    Check the thread below.......

    The info provided helped me.....was not exactly what I was looking for, but it does work.....I am still trying to work with calling up the "run as" gui from windows.....and not having to use any third party software......If i get it to work, I will post.

    A big thanks to "cdemallie" for the reply and assistance.....

    http://www.indigorose.com/forums/sho...&threadid=2766

    Hope this points you in the right direction.

    The_Mechanic

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    Originally posted by Corey
    I might be missing the point but isn't that the exact reason to have permissions, to exclude basic users from modifying things they don't have permission to modify?
    True, but the Autoplay Runtime would HAVE to have the Admin Login and Password, It would not bypass an unknown admin login and password.

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    Corey is offline Indigo Rose Staff Alumni
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    Well if by runtime you mean that the user has to log-in as admin then I'm not sure what the point would be, and if you mean that the designer adds the permission so the users don't have to then that still doesn't prevent users without that permission from installing that software. The second way sounds dicey and possibly a source of legal liabilty for anyone who publishes anything which causes *a perception* of damage to someone else's system...

    Anyhow this is just my opinion and has nothing to do with whether or not such functionality will ever come to be, that's Brett's call.

    Corey Milner
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    I think the reason that Aaron wants this is so that for example he could make an internal application for his company that installs software with the proper administrative privilidges so that the admin would NOT have to go to the system and run the setup themselves. That is a legitimate request. In response to that, there is no way to do that in AMS50 right now but I will look into that possibility and perhaps we could get it in as a plugin...

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    Corey is offline Indigo Rose Staff Alumni
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    Ahhhh I see now... I knew I must be misunderstanding something. Sorry AC!

    Corey Milner
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    That's it......

    Hello all.....

    Brett,

    You hit the nail, square on the head for me.....One of the projects I work on requires updates to financial software every month or so.....Our tech's install the updates, but must install with administrative rights.....If they can use the "Run as" option within windows, it would save time. Currently the either need to log in as admin or explore the cd and locate the .exe and do the left shift key, right click "Run As"......If you can come up with something, that would be great.....Already ordered version 5....can't wait for it to ship.....

    Thanks for all your Guy's and Gal's hard work......


    "YOU ROCK"

    The_Mechanic

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    Originally posted by Corey
    Ahhhh I see now... I knew I must be misunderstanding something. Sorry AC!
    Perfectly fine, I was not explaining my ideas plainly.

    Thanks Brett You did get my idea.

    I have taken a fast look at the 3rd party application referred to in the posted link above. Look like it may work, they have a demo version I plan on trying

    3rd party App - http://www.quimeras.com/Products/products.asp

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    Originally posted by Brett
    I think the reason that Aaron wants this is so that for example he could make an internal application for his company that installs software with the proper administrative privilidges so that the admin would NOT have to go to the system and run the setup themselves. That is a legitimate request. In response to that, there is no way to do that in AMS50 right now but I will look into that possibility and perhaps we could get it in as a plugin...
    A Plugin would be GREAT! Can't wait till v5 ships.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett
    I think the reason that Aaron wants this is so that for example he could make an internal application for his company that installs software with the proper administrative privilidges so that the admin would NOT have to go to the system and run the setup themselves. That is a legitimate request. In response to that, there is no way to do that in AMS50 right now but I will look into that possibility and perhaps we could get it in as a plugin...
    Brett has this issue ever come up again or been resolved (ala a plugin). This would be an extremley wonderful feature to have built in. My application an incident response/forensics cd would greatly benefit from it.

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    3rd Party App that works

    I did find a 3rd part program that allows you to encrypt and script that does run a application with a predefined User name & Password.

    It could be used to install or run apps that require Admin or power user access.

    TQCRunAs

    http://www.quimeras.com/Products/products.asp

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    hey folks... probably looked into this already...

    at a command prompt type: runas /?

    could be a possibility.......may be able to 'push' across network ?

    load user profile..password..domain etc etc..

    maybe Win2K pro (not std) and later (is on XP and 2k3)
    Last edited by SUF6NEWBIE; 07-10-2004 at 06:36 AM.

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    Password Entry

    the RUNAS command requires password entry after the program
    has started so any plugin or feature would need the ability to
    feed keystrokes to the running command line window as is
    possible with Visual Basic Script.

    So a viable option currently is to use Visual Basic Script to
    do the RUNAS and password entry and call it from File.Run
    in AutoPlay.

    I saw a link for this earlier today but can't recall the URL
    or find it right now. Here is a link to a page with a similar
    script (Tek-Tips)

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