Corey
11-05-2004, 06:06 PM
Just bought one'o'these, anyone have any experience at setting up routers? Is the idea here to lock out everything except ports for web and email?
http://www.netgear.com/products/details/MR814.php
What all ports/services should be blocked to gain some decent security?
P.S. I have now come to the conclusion that there is no one on earth more consistently dishonest and/or uninformed than a Future Shop floor sales person. Not sure what sort of culture that place encourages but the guys I met today were very definitely intentionally seeking to mislead me into a router which costs double this one. They told me point blank it doesn't do what it actually does, etc. When I pointed out to them that the box said the opposite of what they were saying, they implied the box may not be right and that the NETGEAR product is faulty. I asked them why it's on the shelf then, and they basically implied it was to keep stupid customers quiet. No joke.
Then, while I was shopping, 6 of them gathered for a confab near me. they were discussing methods of getting more money from customers, specifically charging them to install Norton Antivirus and suggesting to people that if they install it themselves, it won't work as well than if they had paid Future Shop to install it. They were cackling and swapping lines they use to intimidate people. They even mentioned that "once the customer has their computer in the store" that "all sorts of things might *need* to be done". And this right in the aisle of the Future shop in front of customers. They said some very disparaging things. Anyhow just watch, within two weeks that store will have their new "secure yourself" plan in place. $60 to have NAV installed, or the complete security package for $200 with NAV and a $70 router installed the router comes bundled with a firewall. They install to defaults and give you back your unit. If you need it setup, you have to come back and pay another $30.
Terrible experience. Have no fear though, ol' Corey knows *exactly* how to take care of predators. I have no illusions about having made a dent in these guys' non-existent morality but let's just say the moment didn't go their way. Shameful, shameful human beings like nothing I have ever seen. It shakes me to be in the presence of such evil. It's the most predatory thing I've ever seen, even muggers have *some* limits.
I'd like to do a hidden camera thing in there someday, these guys are really something. I can't imagine what their moms would think if they had overheard that conversation, sounds like these guys were raised by Don King and Leona Helmsley.
http://www.netgear.com/products/details/MR814.php
What all ports/services should be blocked to gain some decent security?
P.S. I have now come to the conclusion that there is no one on earth more consistently dishonest and/or uninformed than a Future Shop floor sales person. Not sure what sort of culture that place encourages but the guys I met today were very definitely intentionally seeking to mislead me into a router which costs double this one. They told me point blank it doesn't do what it actually does, etc. When I pointed out to them that the box said the opposite of what they were saying, they implied the box may not be right and that the NETGEAR product is faulty. I asked them why it's on the shelf then, and they basically implied it was to keep stupid customers quiet. No joke.
Then, while I was shopping, 6 of them gathered for a confab near me. they were discussing methods of getting more money from customers, specifically charging them to install Norton Antivirus and suggesting to people that if they install it themselves, it won't work as well than if they had paid Future Shop to install it. They were cackling and swapping lines they use to intimidate people. They even mentioned that "once the customer has their computer in the store" that "all sorts of things might *need* to be done". And this right in the aisle of the Future shop in front of customers. They said some very disparaging things. Anyhow just watch, within two weeks that store will have their new "secure yourself" plan in place. $60 to have NAV installed, or the complete security package for $200 with NAV and a $70 router installed the router comes bundled with a firewall. They install to defaults and give you back your unit. If you need it setup, you have to come back and pay another $30.
Terrible experience. Have no fear though, ol' Corey knows *exactly* how to take care of predators. I have no illusions about having made a dent in these guys' non-existent morality but let's just say the moment didn't go their way. Shameful, shameful human beings like nothing I have ever seen. It shakes me to be in the presence of such evil. It's the most predatory thing I've ever seen, even muggers have *some* limits.
I'd like to do a hidden camera thing in there someday, these guys are really something. I can't imagine what their moms would think if they had overheard that conversation, sounds like these guys were raised by Don King and Leona Helmsley.