Need MP3 Support

[handball]

Please! Without this I cannot use it.

[Corey]

Hi. You can use MP3s in your projects by downloading and using the free media player plug-in at http://www.autoplay.org. Other than that, we reccomend using Ogg Vorbis format. Native MP3 support is not part of AMS due to the patent craziness which surrounds the MP3 format... Hope that helps. :)

Corey Milner
Creative Director, Indigo Rose Software (http://www.indigorose.com)

[Rella]

Hi.
The problem with MP3 is big.
Now, why not turn around the problem?? :cool

If you have an audio editor (A REAL AUDIO EDITOR not a small... :D )
take your .wav file.
-edit it
-save it as:

.wav !BUT! WITH COMPRESSION MP3 CODEC .
RESULT:
namefile.wav --> 30mb (original)
namefile.wav --> 5mb (pressed :cool )

and our Autoplay will PLAY IT !! AND ALL ACTIONS (background,etc...) will be actived!!!

enjoy dere!!
Bye
Rella
-Mind baby Mind!!-

[Adam]

MP who?

If you have access to the source files (.wav) then you would be well served to convert the files to OGG as this is the native format for AutoPlay Media Studio 5.0. When we were looking into alternatives to MP3 I ran some tests on files that are converted to MP3 vs OGG and found OGG to be a better format (although it was close). If you only have MP3 files available then you can still convert them to OGG but you will loose some quality.

You can also play MP3 files in the Media Player plugin Object so this may be an option for you as well. I think that there is a very big shift in audio production away from MP3 due to the licensing issues raised above.

Adam Kapilik

[Corey]

Hi. Cool tip, but you don't need any audio editor to do this. This is simply a trick which happens when you change the file extension of any existing MP3 to ".wav" although I'm not sure I would rely on this in performance critical applications.

Corey Milner
Creative Director, Indigo Rose Software (http://www.indigorose.com)

[Rella]

changing the extension you can risk to corrupt the file and some application
may crash.

try my solution... one time.
if it work, you've solved your problem. :D

bye
Rella.

-Mind baby Mind-

[Corey]

Ummm nope. You are doing the same thing. Just to be clear, there is no such thing as native .wav format audio which is comressed with the MP3 algorithm. They are two different formats. What you are doing is exactly the same as what I mentioned above. The audio editor is not doing anything other than renaming the file extension.

Renaming a file extenstion does not corrupt files in any way. As to the crashing issue, that would be equal for your way and the one I mentioned. I wouldn ot reccomend your technique to anyone who is seeking 100% reliable end performance.

Corey Milner
Creative Director, Indigo Rose Software (http://www.indigorose.com)

[Rella]

well, the choise is yours...

mp3 changed in wav / or wav compressed in mp3
in my case works at 100%

do you fell super precise??

Well with .ogg extension converting your MP3 you have to:
setting the ogg bitrate at high (precise / slow)
NOT UNDER the 192kb/s (or your track will sound in a box)
better 320, more space, but the result is the (near) same.

Analising the sound on my spectrum analise:
MP3 "renamed" to Wav --> the same quality
MP3 changed to MAXIMUM ogg file --> lost of the crystal sound in boost frequencies, hight frequencies are 1/4 highter and the dinamic of the sound
is poor...
At my advice mp3 sounds still better.

Sure, nothing beats the ORIGINAL ANALOG NATURAL .WAV SOUND :D

BYE
Rella

[Corey]

Hi. Politely, you are mistaken on your points:

1. You are simply changing the file extension using your audio editor, nothing more. You are stating that this works 100% without any supporting data or having done any distribution tests. For the record, I don't think it will work 100%, for example any machine without an MP3 codec cannot play MP3 data regardless of the file extension. Anyhoo...

2. No such thing as hybrid wav/MP3 file, it's one or the other. All you are doing via your audio editor is changing the file extension as I mentioned. Yes I am sure about this. If one could get the benefits of MP3 in a .wav file, it would be a widespread practice. However this is not possible. They are two totally different formats.

3. Ogg Vorbis is very much superior to MP3 sonically. I have done the frequency analyis' personally and have seen the numbers. Anyone who wishes to can plainly hear that simply by listening, or by doing a simple frequency anaysis in an audio editor such as Audition or Sound Forge. The superiority of Ogg over MP3 is well documented on Google by many highly credible sources and is not in dispute. If you are interested in viewing the specs and tests which prove that Ogg is superior to MP3 another great place to visit is the Hydrogen Audio forums. (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org) That would also be a better place to dispute any such claims since those people are the ones with all the technical knowledge to properly explain this issue to you.

4. Converting to Ogg is very simple and can be done in a single click using one of the many fine free tools available on Google. There is nothing complicated about it. Anyhow, with MP3 you are required to set the bitrate also.

5. In no way is .wav data ever "analog". I'm not sure where you got that idea, but *all* .wav data is digital. This rule has no exceptions.

Anyhow in order to gain some understanding of audio formats, what they are, and how they work, Google has tons of great resources I would reccomend. Also, posting that something is 100% without doing any tests may lead others to place their faith in erroneous data, perhaps it's better to suggest that you hope it might be %100 than state that it is, that is of course unless you have some supporting data, in which case it's great if you can post that supporting data along with any such statistics.

Corey Milner
Creative Director, Indigo Rose Software (http://www.indigorose.com)