Need help: Technical Quesion

[sk1e]

hi all, im building a data CD educational CD-rom with AutoPlay Media Studio - and I a have a problem - i inserted web browser object and it has terreble 3d borders and they look very awful in my design, do you know now to get rid of them and how to change the way scroller looks ?

well have a look :
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http://skie.spb.ru/img/borders.jpg
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i really hope u have an idea !

[Corey]

Hi. Adding scroll="no" to the body tag of an HTML page removes scrollbars. You can't turn off web object borders.

Corey Milner
Creative Director, Indigo Rose Software (http://www.indigorose.com)

[JimS]

Nah, take another look at it. I think it looks good. Those borders help give depth to your project window, it helps give your project a real 3D look and feel. Just kidding ya! You are pretty much out of luck with the borders though, sorry. Some people have had luck hiding them with text objects, the best I can tell, it hides the borders until the project gets built, then you see the borders again. I’m not sure, maybe you’ll have better luck.

As far as the scroller goes, changing it or getting rid of it completely is no problem. Download my sample project and check it out. Good luck.

[sferguson]

:confused: Hi Gang,

Well, I thought I definitely had this one licked using some simple smoke and mirrors...

Theoretical Solution:

Simply create a couple of plain white jpg or png images (...or whatever color matches both the web page background and the AMS page background), then just use them as a mask to lay over the top of the webobject borders.

However:

Tried it a couple of different ways, using Object > Arrange > Bring to Front, etc... but it appears that the webobject must somehow be set to "always on top".

Can anybody shed some light on this one?

[sferguson]

:confused: Hi Gang,

Well, I thought I definitely had this one licked using some simple smoke and mirrors...

Theoretical Solution:

Simply create a couple of plain white jpg or png images (...or whatever color matches both the web page background and the AMS page background), then just use them as a mask to lay over the top of the webobject borders.

However:

Tried it a couple of different ways, using Object > Arrange > Bring to Front, etc... but it appears that the webobject must somehow be set to "always on top".

Can anybody shed some light on this one?

[JimS]

Try this

[rhosk]

Don't know about the border, but that scroll can be manipulated in many ways (form tags, iframes, etc).

Even if you're pulling in a webpage from the web, you can insert an iframe and pull it in that way. This allows you to change the scroll as well. Here's a quick example of how everything looks - just play with all the settings to get the result you want. This isn't pretty as I threw it together in about 15 minutes, but it will show you what's possible.

If you're familiar with style sheets, the opportunities are endless.

[JimS]

Thanks to Derek, and the rest at IR, I have learned a much better way to cover up the borders. The method is textbox objects. This method works much better than my idea of using Flash objects. I'm sorry I wasted your time and mine by posting the flash idea. As you can see in the new project I've uploaded, the idea of using textbox objects to hide the border is a much superior method.
I learn something new each day, or at least try to, and I would whole heartedly suggest the textbox method to the flash object method, every time.

[JimS]

Good job RHosk, that’s a nice example project. It shows multiple ways to customize and or eliminate the scroller. Nice work!

[rhosk]

Thanks. And quit downplaying your solution, let's call it another option :) I'm sure I would've spent many moons trying to figure either of those tricks out. Good on you as well.

Just wonder if sk1e has implemented any of these?

[Corey]

The text box cover up has been reported not to work in some scenarios. Apparently it looks fine at design time but at runtime the borders display as normal in some scenarios, that's the rumor...

Corey Milner
Creative Director, Indigo Rose Software (http://www.indigorose.com)

[TJ_Tigger]

Corey,

Could Z-order play into that?

[Derek]

Originally posted by sferguson

However:

Tried it a couple of different ways, using Object > Arrange > Bring to Front, etc... but it appears that the webobject must somehow be set to "always on top".

Can anybody shed some light on this one? Its to do with z-order superiority. Web browser objects are one of the objects that MUST be on top during run-time, because of the way things are painted on the screen. Its a Windows thing, unorftunately.

[sk1e]

Well, thank all of you, dudes!! That is the most friendly forum i have ever seen :) Ill use your suggestions in my progect, and`ll show it when it is done !!

[JimS]

Ron, I’ve wondered about it too. Either way it’s OK. It’s a question that I’ve seen posted several times, and now I have a simple project that I can quickly upload again the next time I see the question asked. I’m sort of lazy, and have poor typing skills, so being able to just upload an example is faster for me than explaining it. I hope it will cut down on misunderstandings also. I have read past posts on the matter, and for some reason I understood them to suggest text objects instead of textbox objects. Big difference, I was never able to get the text objects to work. I spent more than a couple hours trying and trying without any luck, all because I misread the post. I’m not sure about other people, but for me it’s often easier to learn by seeing and touching an example rather than just reading about it. Besides that, even if nobody else finds the project helpful, no big deal, I finally learned how to do it. Sounds odd, but I often learn more myself trying to teach somebody something, than I do just being the pupil.
As far as downplaying my solution goes. I could sure use a big dose of humility. Since I misunderstood about the text object, I was under the false impression that there was no good solution for this. When I realized that flash objects could have a higher z-plane than the web browser object, I thought I was a genius, and like the fool I am, I shouted it at the top of my lungs. What a stupid thing to do. If I’m big enough to boast, I need to be big enough to apologize, or at least point out some of my misgivings. Thankfully, Corey was able to get rid of the thread I started, in which I really made a fool of myself by bragging about how smart I am.

I’m still learning how to best use AMS, and it’s important that I remember that. I figure that a little more humility in my posts is probably a good first step.

[Corey]

Not sure Tigg, that's Brett's domain. Although I suspect you are correct.

Corey Milner
Creative Director, Indigo Rose Software (http://www.indigorose.com)

[sk1e]

Originally posted by JimS
....I have read past posts on the matter, and for some reason I understood them to suggest text objects instead of textbox objects.

well , trick with text objects works fine, even in final progect, may be i didn get somthing right ?

[Corey]

Should work fine but be aware some people have reported the border appearing at runtime although I've never seen it happen personally.

Corey Milner
Creative Director, Indigo Rose Software (http://www.indigorose.com)