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mnsports
03-04-2010, 07:30 PM
When I choose a video object and then go to the video file I want to use which is a MPEG-4 file APMS does not see it? It only sees .wmv and flash files?
HELP!
Thanks for your time.
Ulrich
03-04-2010, 08:45 PM
HELP!
Yes, that is an excellent idea, you should try it: just press the F1 key.
From the help file:
The video object is compatible with the following video formats:
.asf, .asx, .wax, .wmv, .wvx, .wmp, .wmx, .avi, .mpg, .mpeg, .m1v, .mpa, .mpe, .mpv2
Ulrich
Centauri Soldier
03-04-2010, 08:55 PM
Yes, that is an excellent idea, you should try it: just press the F1 key.
From the help file:
Ulrich
LMAO! Heh heh. :D
mnsports
03-05-2010, 06:53 AM
Yes, that is an excellent idea, you should try it: just press the F1 key.
From the help file:
Ulrich
Thanks for the smart ass answer...DH! That being said.
I always go to the Help File 1st and when I did go there it does say that it is compatible with MPEG so then why is AMPS not allowing me to select MPEG-4 files? When I go to the file my video's are in from APMS it does not show them?
T3STY
03-05-2010, 08:24 AM
I don't really understood what is your problem, can't you select MPG files? if you're using a FileBrowse dialog, make sure you've set the dialog to recognize .mpg files.
But if the problem is that the video is not playing when you selected it, this may occur because the video was compressed somehow... I don't really know..
mnsports
03-05-2010, 09:36 AM
I don't really understood what is your problem, can't you select MPG files?
Yes, I can not select MPG files.
APMS does not show them as a file I can select? I rendered a bunch of videos files to MPEG-4 which APMS says I can use. Now I make a page, then add a Video Object, then browse for the video file I want to use. Once I get to the folder that has all my MPEG-4 videos in it using the APMS file browser the folder shows no files? The MPEG-4 files are in that file but APMS does not see them or is not showing them for some reason. See pic below.
http://www.howtodopestcontrol.com/images/apms.jpg
Imagine Programming
03-05-2010, 09:48 AM
What is the file extension for the files you'd like to see in the dialog? .mp4?
Mpeg4 = .mp4, and as Ulrich already pointed out, .mp4 is not in the list for supported files...
mnsports
03-05-2010, 10:28 AM
What is the file extension for the files you'd like to see in the dialog? .mp4?
Mpeg4 = .mp4, and as Ulrich already pointed out, .mp4 is not in the list for supported files...
The file extension I want to use is MPEG-4 VIDEO Format.
The help file says MPEG will work. By reading that it makes one assume that all versions of MPEG will work?
The video object is compatible with the following video formats:
.asf, .asx, .wax, .wmv, .wvx, .wmp, .wmx, .avi, .mpg, .mpeg, .m1v, .mpa, .mpe, .mpv2
MPEG just stands for Moving Picture Experts Group but has many versions... IE.. 1,2,3,4,7,12...... So which formats of MPEG does APMS work with?
Thank you for your time.
holtgrewe
03-05-2010, 11:36 AM
I'm certainly no expert in video processing; but I have had limited success in calling QuickTime using AMS. I can't recommend this method, but I have used it.
Although not supported directly in AMS, I have loaded and played videos in m4v format running QuickTime in a separate window...
You lose programatic control of the process, since you relinquish control to QT... you should be able to do the same with MPEG-4.
Optionally, there are also many converters available...but ooooh so time consuming.
File.Run("C:\\Program Files\\QuickTime\\QuickTimePlayer.exe", "C:\\Stuff\\DanceWithTheStars\\video2.m4v", "", SW_SHOWNORMAL, true)
P.S. Meg-4 support would be an excellent suggestion for AMS-8...
Sakuya
03-05-2010, 12:00 PM
As long as the computer has the codecs installed (e.g. K-Lite or CCCP) one would assume the Video object or the MediaPlayer object plugin should be able to play a video of that format.
Imagine Programming
03-05-2010, 12:12 PM
The file extension I want to use is MPEG-4 VIDEO Format.
The help file says MPEG will work. By reading that it makes one assume that all versions of MPEG will work?
The video object is compatible with the following video formats:
.asf, .asx, .wax, .wmv, .wvx, .wmp, .wmx, .avi, .mpg, .mpeg, .m1v, .mpa, .mpe, .mpv2
MPEG just stands for Moving Picture Experts Group but has many versions... IE.. 1,2,3,4,7,12...... So which formats of MPEG does APMS work with?
Thank you for your time.
I asked for the extension of the file you'd like to see in the file browser, not the file format... I could name a file thislookslikeatextfile.txt but it could be a having MPEG-4 file format...
The 'Select File' dialog which doesn't show the file you like it to show, is only looking for files using those file extensions, if you have a file with the .mp4 extension, eg: Wooptiedoo.mp4, the dialog won't show it, because it doesn't have one of those extensions. Even though it IS of the MPEG4 format.
That was my point.
mnsports
03-05-2010, 01:07 PM
I asked for the extension of the file you'd like to see in the file browser, not the file format... I could name a file thislookslikeatextfile.txt but it could be a having MPEG-4 file format...
The 'Select File' dialog which doesn't show the file you like it to show, is only looking for files using those file extensions, if you have a file with the .mp4 extension, eg: Wooptiedoo.mp4, the dialog won't show it, because it doesn't have one of those extensions. Even though it IS of the MPEG4 format.
That was my point.
Ok now I see what you are taking about. The file is a MPEG-4 Movie format and it is saved as a .mp4 file
So this leads me back to my question. What versions of MPEG or MPG does AMS work with? Its odd that AMS will not work with mp4 when they say mpg will work... its a very good standard format... YouTube perferres MPEG-4. You still get great video but at a much less file size. MP4, MPG4 or MPEG-4 what ever its called, they all play in both PC & Mac... AMS needs to make AMS work with them! MHO ;)
Thanks for your time.
Imagine Programming
03-05-2010, 01:37 PM
Ok now I see what you are taking about. The file is a MPEG-4 Movie format and it is saved as a .mp4 file
So this leads me back to my question. What versions of MPEG or MPG does AMS work with? Its odd that AMS will not work with mp4 when they say mpg will work... its a very good standard format... YouTube perferres MPEG-4. You still get great video but at a much less file size. MP4, MPG4 or MPEG-4 what ever its called, they all play in both PC & Mac... AMS needs to make AMS work with them! MHO ;)
Thanks for your time.
As Sakuya said, maybe if the codecs are installed, the video will play in the Video object. Anyhow, you could use Centauri's AMS Options tool from www.amspublic.com to edit the XML file containing the extensions for the videotypes, add .mp4 and try again after restarting AMS :)
And then maybe, you'll be able to play the MP4 vid. You will be able to browse to it after changing the XML file :)
In AMS Options, Menu > Editor > Resource Types > Videos
Click New and then enter the new extension (mp4) and you're done adding
the new resource type :yes
mnsports
03-05-2010, 02:20 PM
As Sakuya said, maybe if the codecs are installed, the video will play in the Video object. Anyhow, you could use Centauri's AMS Options tool from www.amspublic.com to edit the XML file containing the extensions for the videotypes, add .mp4 and try again after restarting AMS :)
And then maybe, you'll be able to play the MP4 vid. You will be able to browse to it after changing the XML file :)
In AMS Options, Menu > Editor > Resource Types > Videos
Click New and then enter the new extension (mp4) and you're done adding
the new resource type :yes
Not sure what you mean by all that? All I have are single Video files no XML or HTML files with it.... just a rendered .mp4 file. I did try it with a .wmv file and it works fine, just goto the file, select it and it plays in the video object no problem. I want to use the .mp4 its half the size of the .wmv but just a good.
It bothers me that you pay $300 for a program that says it works with mpg & mpeg files which leads one to assume that means all mpg and mpeg files.
I have a workaround for all this but it opens the video in a player outside of AMS. In both cases the end user has to have the player installed on the machine but I would perfer to have it all in one app.
Sakuya
03-05-2010, 02:23 PM
Not sure what you mean by all that? All I have are single Video files no XML or HTML files with it.... just a rendered .mp4 file. I did try it with a .wmv file and it works fine, just goto the file, select it and it plays in the video object no problem. I want to use the .mp4 its half the size of the .wmv but just a good.
It bothers me that you pay $300 for a program that says it works with mpg & mpeg files which leads one to assume that means all mpg and mpeg files.
He's referring to a 3rd party application that modifies the internal workings of AutoPlay Media Studio. This way the file browsing will pick up MPEG files.
Imagine Programming
03-05-2010, 02:56 PM
He's referring to a 3rd party application that modifies the internal workings of AutoPlay Media Studio. This way the file browsing will pick up MPEG files.
I perhaps should have mentioned I was indeed referring to the AMS Resource Types XML file :p
mnsports
03-05-2010, 07:32 PM
Thanks for all the input guys it looks like I can't do it the way I want but its really no big deal. I just have a button open the .mpg4 file and it opens it in QuikTime and either way the end user would have to have QuickTime installed on the machine so it all will work.:yes
mystica
03-05-2010, 08:59 PM
Jeez-louize, you lot like to complicate things don't you?
mnsports,
the quickest easiest way to solve your problem is just to do this:
1. Go to the AMS Data folder.
eg. C:\Program Files\AutoPlay Media Studio 7.0\Data
2. Open the file called _res_types (it's an XML file) in Wordpad.
3. About a third of the way down, you'll see a list of file-extensions for the video-object. Just add <Ext>mp4</Ext> to the list.
eg.
http://img.loldepot.com/f8a41621eab63a6d70e5.jpeg
4. Open up your project and you'll find that it now recognises/accepts mpeg files with an .mp4 extension.
5. Problem solved.
It's just a less roundabout way of doing what Imagine Programming was talking about.
PS.
And no smart remarks from you lot about how it's breaching the AMS EULA or I'll reach through your web-portal and strangle you.
Centauri Soldier
03-06-2010, 12:22 AM
I just I should put AMS Options back up for situations like this. Better go secure it and throw it back up on the site.
Hey mystica, according the AMS EULA you're really not supposed to be messing with that file...:D
mystica
03-06-2010, 02:08 AM
I just I should put AMS Options back up for situations like this. Better go secure it and throw it back up on the site.
Hey mystica, according the AMS EULA you're really not supposed to be messing with that file...:D
Now you better secure your web-portal too, while you're at it, Centauri! :p
longedge
03-06-2010, 04:32 AM
I imagine that one of the ideas behind restricting what AMS 'recognises' is to protect people from the unwanted consequences of their own actions.
A constant problem we have is that of users trying to play mpeg 2 files, whether it's straight DVD's, vob or mpeg 2 encoded video files on their laptops. Even though every one of our laptops supposedly has a DVD player and thus the correct codecs installed, they still cause a variety of problems - no audio with video, video with no audio, neither video or audio etc. etc.
Although I still use mpeg 1 from time to time as it's 100% compatible, I don't have problems with wmv's or even flv's within a flash object. I stick with what I know is going to work.
You only need to produce 1 or 2 applications that cause problems and you've lost all credibility no matter how you try to explain that's it's not your fault :lol
mnsports
03-06-2010, 09:48 AM
Jeez-louize, you lot like to complicate things don't you?
mnsports,
the quickest easiest way to solve your problem is just to do this:
1. Go to the AMS Data folder.
eg. C:\Program Files\AutoPlay Media Studio 7.0\Data
2. Open the file called _res_types (it's an XML file) in Wordpad.
3. About a third of the way down, you'll see a list of file-extensions for the video-object. Just add <Ext>mp4</Ext> to the list.
eg.
4. Open up your project and you'll find that it now recognises/accepts mpeg files with an .mp4 extension.
5. Problem solved.
It's just a less roundabout way of doing what Imagine Programming was talking about.
PS.
And no smart remarks from you lot about how it's breaching the AMS EULA or I'll reach through your web-portal and strangle you.
Thanks for that info. I did what you said and now AMS sees the .mp4 files but when I select and press OK I get : VIDEO LOAD ERROR. Can not play back the file: The format is not supported. (0x80040265)
AMS needs to update their program its crazy that it does not support .mp4 video!
mnsports
03-06-2010, 10:06 AM
I imagine that one of the ideas behind restricting what AMS 'recognises' is to protect people from the unwanted consequences of their own actions.
A constant problem we have is that of users trying to play mpeg 2 files, whether it's straight DVD's, vob or mpeg 2 encoded video files on their laptops. Even though every one of our laptops supposedly has a DVD player and thus the correct codecs installed, they still cause a variety of problems - no audio with video, video with no audio, neither video or audio etc. etc.
Although I still use mpeg 1 from time to time as it's 100% compatible, I don't have problems with wmv's or even flv's within a flash object. I stick with what I know is going to work.
You only need to produce 1 or 2 applications that cause problems and you've lost all credibility no matter how you try to explain that's it's not your fault :lol
You some make sense but there are a billions of people watching YouTube and a ton of video uploaded to YouTube is .mp4 because it is great rock solid file type. Playing video on your pc is really as easy as having the player installed and the players made by MS & Apple are rock solid. I have sold tons of videos using .mp4 and the only problems I have ever had was the person did not have QuickTime installed on the machine, they install it, problem solved. All I am doing is giving them a video for them to play via the player which is made to play that file type... pretty simple.
mystica
03-06-2010, 12:43 PM
Thanks for that info. I did what you said and now AMS sees the .mp4 files but when I select and press OK I get : VIDEO LOAD ERROR. Can not play back the file: The format is not supported. (0x80040265)
AMS needs to update their program its crazy that it does not support .mp4 video!
This is not an AMS problem, mnsports. I tried loading an mp4 video of my own via this method, and it works fine. I would have uploaded the example for you, but the mp4 file I had on hand was too big to bother uploading, and I didn't have time to chop it into something smaller. But I can assure you that AMS will both recognise and play the file without problems. Your error lays elsewhere (ie. outside of AMS)
(I will upload the example later, if you still want to see for yourself).
Imagine Programming
03-06-2010, 01:02 PM
This is not an AMS problem, mnsports. I tried loading an mp4 video of my own via this method, and it works fine. I would have uploaded the example for you, but the mp4 file I had on hand was too big to bother uploading, and I didn't have time to chop it into something smaller. But I can assure you that AMS will both recognise and play the file without problems. Your error lays elsewhere (ie. outside of AMS)
(I will upload the example later, if you still want to see for yourself).
Like a missing MPEG-4 codec?
mnsports
03-06-2010, 06:14 PM
This is not an AMS problem, mnsports. I tried loading an mp4 video of my own via this method, and it works fine. I would have uploaded the example for you, but the mp4 file I had on hand was too big to bother uploading, and I didn't have time to chop it into something smaller. But I can assure you that AMS will both recognise and play the file without problems. Your error lays elsewhere (ie. outside of AMS)
(I will upload the example later, if you still want to see for yourself).
No need to upload. The .mp4 file plays fine when opened in quicktime? So then I will ask does AMS have codecs within the program or does the program use the codecs installed on your PC and if so does AMS use the players codecs.. IE WMS or QT or is there codecs it uses?
mystica
03-07-2010, 01:56 PM
Okay look. Does your .mp4 video play okay in Windows Media Player? If it does, then it should work in AMS ... it's that simple.
If it doesn't, you need to look at your installed codecs.
If it does play in WMP but not in AMS, tell me what version of AMS you are using? (And I mean the exact version-number, down to the very last digit).
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