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4090987414711
08-16-2007, 06:46 AM
Hi, I have been approached by my next door neighbour that is opening his own cyber cafe, I have said I will set up all the PC's and stuff, but what he really needs is a sort of "replacement" for explorer.exe so when his customers are using the computers, they cannot access certain stuff to keep the PC's clean and free from tampering..
An example would be a full-screen window than only he can close (maybe with a password he chooses) and also would want to disable CTRL, ALT & Delete so this program and others cannot be closed, also access to stuff like control panel and other system settings are disallowed..
The only things we need to use is Internet explorer (of course) and maybe even some way to just have access to 1 folder where the users can download files to and access it to either burn onto CD or the users own USB drives, and this presents another prob, I have used various library's PC's and I have found that you cant do much to them, but from an explorer window (such as the a:\ drive) it can be possible to type other locations in this address bar (such as c:\) and other locations, we need this to "lock down" the pc so no other use can come from them unless somehow an administrator password is input somewhere, I really dont know where to start, and this would be my biggest project to date, and I really dont wanna let my neighbour down, cos if this all goes ok, it could open up other possibilities for me in the IT industry which is all Ive really ever wanted to do.
So huge big thanks in advance to everyone that can help me, and you will not only be helping my neighbour, but quite possibly helping me to further my career in the IT sector!
Thanks all!
4090987414711
08-16-2007, 07:15 AM
I quickly just made a basic "shell" for the program, to show how I would like it to be, please feel free to play around and suggest things as necessary!
4090987414711
08-17-2007, 06:20 AM
I take it NOBODY can help or wants to help me then...:rolleyes:huh:huh
usernameCasper
08-17-2007, 07:38 AM
Hey 4090987414711,
You just started this topic yesterday and not all people are active 24/7 on this forum. Please take the time, did you use the search function, I think I saw this earlier, could be come handy to archieve your goals.
Kind regards,
-Casper
4090987414711
08-17-2007, 07:48 AM
Hey 4090987414711,
You just started this topic yesterday and not all people are active 24/7 on this forum. Please take the time, did you use the search function, I think I saw this earlier, could be come handy to archieve your goals.
Kind regards,
-Casper
Yes I did do a quick few serches, but the problem I have, i can never find the right keywords, such as, if I search for "how to make a login" but it comes up with unrelated search topics, i always have this problem, i know what I want to search for, but i have trouble in wording it so the results will show what I need, its a pain! just like I'm a bit 'number dyslexic' where as I see a section of numbers, but sometimes get them mixed up, I hate it!
And thanks for your reply Casper, in a way, I hate doing jobs for others as they want it done yesterday so to speak and its a pain trying to explain to them that if there is a bit Im not sure about, I have to post in forums to get help, and people are not just here for when I need them, but people dont understand.
usernameCasper
08-17-2007, 09:38 AM
ahh, no problem :yes
I know what you mean about the searches, I had this too long time ago when I had to made many, many scripts and reports from college, it was indeed a pain in the ass to use the right context.
I know there is an example flying around in here from a girl a time ago, try something with the keyword "kiosk" and/or "disable" "browser", sorry can't help you at moment, very busy !
Kind regards,
-Casper
4090987414711
08-17-2007, 02:22 PM
Ok thanks, I will definately try that!
Thanks for the understanding :)
Take care!
Cybgraph
08-17-2007, 04:24 PM
Try using Group Policies.
Give a look to this:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=7821C32F-DA15-438D-8E48-45915CD2BC14&displaylang=en
4090987414711
08-17-2007, 04:24 PM
Hi all!
I have added a bit more to this program, the probs I am now facing are:
* I need to disable the CTRL, ALT & Del keys to stop this app being quit by anyone other than the owner.
* For the login details, I guess this will be saved onto the main server, and each PC that is on the network can access this from the server to find the user and load using customers' own username & password, and as this is the case, the list of users & passwords will have to be stored in a text / ini file, and I will need to make some sort of a program up so the owner can then add, edit or remove customers' login details as he wishes, so with 1 app the owner can create a user and it will save it to the server PC, so when a customer goes into the cyber cafe, using any pc (s)he wants, that user will be able to login.
Thanks for all your patience and future help, I have about 2 months to make this program, test and get rid of bugs to make it water-tight for the opening of my neighbours cafe. :)
PS: the new project is attatched :)
rexzooly
08-21-2007, 08:26 AM
Hi all!
I have added a bit more to this program, the probs I am now facing are:
* I need to disable the CTRL, ALT & Del keys to stop this app being quit by anyone other than the owner.
* For the login details, I guess this will be saved onto the main server, and each PC that is on the network can access this from the server to find the user and load using customers' own username & password, and as this is the case, the list of users & passwords will have to be stored in a text / ini file, and I will need to make some sort of a program up so the owner can then add, edit or remove customers' login details as he wishes, so with 1 app the owner can create a user and it will save it to the server PC, so when a customer goes into the cyber cafe, using any pc (s)he wants, that user will be able to login.
Thanks for all your patience and future help, I have about 2 months to make this program, test and get rid of bugs to make it water-tight for the opening of my neighbours cafe. :)
PS: the new project is attatched :)
Hi i would Have a locked up admin accout that uses Exlporer.exe and then on the user account change the reg to change lets call it Cyber.exe on the users
there for no server would be needed to control this.
i would also look in to reg edits for the ctrl alt delete and add this in to a installed or just make a reg and add it.
I use a custom Explorer so i know this works but mine is a mod of Explorer.exe not a AMS work
rexzooly
08-21-2007, 05:56 PM
I am kind of wanted to keep this to my self but i can't
as it was made with alot of other peoples projects to get it to work.
Ok heres what to do add this to a limited user accout and have it not load
or have it load his as its explorer.exe mostly a reg hack
at the mo it only have IE in it but i was been lazy so in is in the software but still links to its DLL's in the Internet Exploere Program file.
Username and pass:
User: name & pass then click enter
Admin: admin & lilomai then click admin.
The admin panel lets you end the software via another password
admin & 36936988
This was just a little test i worked on for you i hope this will help you some what.
Rex
4090987414711
08-21-2007, 06:02 PM
Thank you for that, I have Virtual PC on my laptop, so when I finally get on it, I will test that as a viable option and show my neighbour to see what he thinks!:)
4090987414711
08-21-2007, 06:16 PM
I am kind of wanted to keep this to my self but i can't
as it was made with alot of other peoples projects to get it to work.
Ok heres what to do add this to a limited user accout and have it not load
or have it load his as its explorer.exe mostly a reg hack
at the mo it only have IE in it but i was been lazy so in is in the software but still links to its DLL's in the Internet Exploere Program file.
Username and pass:
User: name & pass then click enter
Admin: admin & lilomai then click admin.
The admin panel lets you end the software via another password
admin & 36936988
This was just a little test i worked on for you i hope this will help you some what.
Rex
This is exactly what he would like and as far as I have seen, its just about perfect!!
Thanks again, you must be a mind reader! :yes:yes:yes:lol:lol
rexzooly
08-21-2007, 06:20 PM
This is exactly what he would like and as far as I have seen, its just about perfect!!
Thanks again, you must be a mind reader! :yes:yes:yes:lol:lol
Well like i said in a post before i worked in cyber cafes :)
Tell when what you would like to add to it and i will see what i can do
this took me sometime to get working and i have a full version on my pc
i can make it so it will install for you in the future then its good anoth as this
was a demo copy took me sometime to do it tho.
but from seeing yours i tryed to keep with the idea
rexzooly
08-21-2007, 06:22 PM
Well like i said in a post before i worked in cyber cafes :)
Tell when what you would like to add to it and i will see what i can do
this took me sometime to get working and i have a full version on my pc
i can make it so it will install for you in the future then its good anoth as this
was a demo copy took me sometime to do it tho.
but from seeing yours i tryed to keep with the idea
Also i have tested this without explorer running and it worked.
4090987414711
08-21-2007, 06:30 PM
The only things really Id like to change is pretty simple, the obvious being the password(s), adding the other programs links, also a games section, and a new news part, also a few bits of code that I have to disable key combinations such as CTRL & ESCAPE, ALT & tab, but as I said I have the coding for that from an example app I stumbled across, and a contact info page.
The only 1 prob so far now thinking about it is that he would prefer it that every customer has their own login name & password (also helpful for banning members if necessary) and this is why I suggested using some sort of a text or ini file stored on the main server, so each customer can use their login on any pc( say for example if the pc they want to use it busy, they can use a vacant PC to login) and i thought it would save having to copy each new customer to each pc (there are going to be 10 at first)
Grr, I overlooked that matter! D'oh!
rexzooly
08-21-2007, 06:38 PM
The only things really Id like to change is pretty simple, the obvious being the password(s), adding the other programs links, also a games section, and a new news part, also a few bits of code that I have to disable key combinations such as CTRL & ESCAPE, ALT & tab, but as I said I have the coding for that from an example app I stumbled across, and a contact info page.
The only 1 prob so far now thinking about it is that he would prefer it that every customer has their own login name & password (also helpful for banning members if necessary) and this is why I suggested using some sort of a text or ini file stored on the main server, so each customer can use their login on any pc( say for example if the pc they want to use it busy, they can use a vacant PC to login) and i thought it would save having to copy each new customer to each pc (there are going to be 10 at first)
Grr, I overlooked that matter! D'oh!
Yes i don't know how to do that yet but i don't see why it could not get the password and usernames from a text file based on a remote pc or web server.
but i am not sure if its pass cos \\ in ams is \ so i don't know what the comand would be to find it on a remote server unless ams pointed to a short cut that then points to the server.
with alot of work i will see what i can do with this one i am trying :)
and can you provide me with them codes for the key thinks ctrl,alt delete is disabled in this. and so is alt f4
it stops task man from running how the software is open
4090987414711
08-21-2007, 06:45 PM
yeah here is the exported app, a few options there, all credits to the original coder & uploader!:yes
rexzooly
08-21-2007, 06:51 PM
yeah here is the exported app, a few options there, all credits to the original coder & uploader!:yes
i am now looking in to this user name thing where it can use a text file
or other means like this if you find this before me please send me the code
or example :)
also whats he doing about timing users?
i don't think i can do this but is he going to charge them for a hole day or
just a hour?
just so i know how to make the software better how things go by.
P.S you do know this is going to be along project.:yes
4090987414711
08-21-2007, 07:07 PM
er, Im not sure about the timer or charges, will have to ask him 2morra!
i have really gotta get to bed now, I have to be up for work at 6am!
will work on it when I get home and come on here later on this evening :)
TC all :)
rexzooly
08-21-2007, 07:10 PM
is that the time lol well ya thats ok:yes
looks like i am off 2 bed soon also :):rolleyes:rolleyes:rolleyes
TC
Np's
I like to help out if i can.
my missis will kill me when she knows i am doing more work 4 free tho lol
4090987414711
08-22-2007, 05:24 AM
Hi! before I go back to work, I have added a bit more, if your gonna test it, please observe the new user & pass, and also I managed to do a sort of timer, at the moment it is only set for 30 seconds to not to bore you when you wait!
A few probs here: in the global functions, there is a bit of code from aomeone (really sorry, Im no good with remembering loads at once) to convert the time into hrs, mins & seconds (hopefully) but I could not get that to work, so I just remarked that bit out, and also on timer expiry, I want all apps opened by the customer to be exited when their session ends, I have a bit of code in place, and have only made it for IE at first, but that dont work either :(
anyways, gotta rush now, will be back later on :)
rexzooly
08-22-2007, 07:12 PM
Hi! before I go back to work, I have added a bit more, if your gonna test it, please observe the new user & pass, and also I managed to do a sort of timer, at the moment it is only set for 30 seconds to not to bore you when you wait!
A few probs here: in the global functions, there is a bit of code from aomeone (really sorry, Im no good with remembering loads at once) to convert the time into hrs, mins & seconds (hopefully) but I could not get that to work, so I just remarked that bit out, and also on timer expiry, I want all apps opened by the customer to be exited when their session ends, I have a bit of code in place, and have only made it for IE at first, but that dont work either :(
anyways, gotta rush now, will be back later on :)
Rish Feller i have so far done:
Made login work One user only
Admin panel to end software or use taskmge.exe
most keys have been disabled with disablekey.dll
Probles SOMEONE HELP:eek:
Right i have been working on this for 4090987414711
and i have go what he wants P.S doing this 100% free just adding my
look and software naming
What i need is away that we can edit users via text file on a remote server (\\server or \\ desk )
also edit the time they have left and if the file says 0 then the get a message please buy more time.
i have read all the fourm about more then one user and not been able to work
eveyone that as helped on this so far and in the future will be on the about/ credit page.
So what is needed is:
One text file like so
--users--
Admin = popie * (* = Unlimited time)
Mike = home 0:20 ( 20 min)
Jack = open 6:00 ( 6 hours)
-- Locked users --
Hellan = jet + ( + would mean give user a error: Please see admin account disabled)
Can anyone please help with this what i am asking for seems kinda simple i just don't know how to do it :( i am stupid i know but it would be great to help use out. i have been working on this none stop for 4090987414711 and
i would like to do this finished options but can't do this without the main part of the software working.
Please Help us :P
rexzooly
08-22-2007, 09:47 PM
Hey there feller.
Here is a demo for you
admin pass is yoyo
username: name
password: pass
the game does not end its self i don't know why i tryed alot anthing to end it.
i hope this is something like what you wanted.
still working on some things to get the usernames and pass words and time till is times out i a text file.
sorry for spelling in the app its almost 4 am i have worked all night on this
See i just had to edit cos i forgot the url
http://d-mess.webgroupsonline.co.uk/downloads/Cyber Soft Demo.exe
rexzooly
08-24-2007, 05:17 PM
hey i have done alot of work on your project for you and well
it seems i am going to have to change some of the coding for it
all to work but i will do that soon i think
i have also got the file that can be changed on a remote local server
but i don't know way this would be edited yet so are you able to tell him
to set the desk computer to have the name DESK so i can change the
setting before seeing it to Desk as its set to ****ed at the mo as that the
name of my pc.
lol but i am using my pc also as a remote local server
Then he or you will need to make a shared in c called Cyber Soft/User Data/Old/Deleted/ <--- This will be the Live data not the dead data just
to try and keep the risk of it been edited by some thats not meant to.
also the admin can now change the admin password it will come preset as yoyo
but this will be changeable
P.S this is only for the new demo what i will send you end of next week
i will make a finished version with installer for cliants and one client admin tool that will install the ini files to the right place and so the admin can change is pass on the desk pc
still working on way to edit the user file and get the timer to work but its preset to 30 mins
So he could simply do it that way for the time bein
still workin on it everyday tho and will have a nice finished product soon.
Please PM me your real name just so i know whom i have been working for the last week :)
Rex
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