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eric_darling
11-25-2005, 09:40 AM
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/11/1114_051114_biodiesel.html?source=rss
This sounds promising. Renewable energy breakthroughs are rare and exciting.

Brett
11-25-2005, 10:33 AM
I read abouth this a while ago. Check this out:

http://www.changethis.com/9.Biodiesel

More detail and well-written.

Corey
11-25-2005, 03:22 PM
Biodiesel is many years old, it's far from new technology. You can run any diesel engine off biodiesel with zero conversion required. Biodiesel can be easily made from a number of sources. It's a wonderful solution. But the resistance is currently insurmountable. :yes

They just drilled a 2 mile core in antartica (largest ever) this week and discovered that CO2 in our system is at the highest level it's been in 650,000 years:

We're changing the world really hugely - way past where it's been for a long time."
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/25/science/earth/25core.html

eric_darling
11-25-2005, 04:50 PM
Good points in both posts, guys.

The real story, if you will, of my original post (if you'd care to read the linked article published by National Geographic), is that Japanese researchers have discovered a way to use ordinary sugars as a catalyst for the creation of biodiesel. The news in that is that the argument about this stuff being dangerous and/or expensive to process just lost a lot of ground. :)

Corey
11-25-2005, 05:14 PM
Lack of innovation has nothing to do with the positioning of biodiesel, they could discover a new way to make it tomorrow for 10% of the current cost and it still wouldn't make a difference. Notice that this discovery didn't even make the news (http://news.google.ca/nwshp?hl=en&tab=wn&q=), apparently the decrepit limp-back of cashed out yesterband INXS is more important to us. :D

AXXESS
11-25-2005, 05:55 PM
Yikes. I heard today that the government will soon increase taxes on hybrid vehicles, since they consume less fuel and generate less fuel-tax related revenue... :eek:

WHAT is this world coming to??? :rolleyes

Corey
11-25-2005, 06:10 PM
the government will soon increase taxes on hybrid vehicles, since they consume less fuel and generate less fuel-tax related revenue...
Exactly. Meanwhile back at the ranch people in Venzuela pay .12 cents per gallon:
http://money.cnn.com/pf/features/lists/global_gasprices/

Intrigued
11-25-2005, 09:08 PM
Ah, orchestrated little people. Nothing like it over a good cup of coffee and a donut. (source: unknown)

:eek:

Corey
11-25-2005, 09:36 PM
I used to think it was orchestrated but I've since realized that's just the natural pattern by which sediment settles. I believe Kenny Rogers said it best when he said, "Aw, crap..." :D

Intrigued
11-25-2005, 10:09 PM
I'm sure the "oil powers that be" have a very well thoughtout, their advantage game plan! That's a forgone conclusion when you take a particularly close look at the "players" and how they run each piece of the "ship".

I was watching CSPAN (I believe) the other day and one of the oversight committee members use to work in the very industry he is oversighting. To an honest, for the people public official this would be a positive advantage for the people in the end. Lets just say I was not confident that this committee member was one of those folks. He asked, for example, a question and answered it for them, no less than one times and it almost seemed like he was courting all five oil CEO's, just incase he moves back to (or when) the private sector he will have a cushy position or be on one of their (or all) boards and thus get big bucks.

Oh ya...

Same chit, different day.

:rolleyes

Corey
11-25-2005, 10:17 PM
"Skateboards never lie."
- Corey Milner, 2005