OMG! This guy you guys laughed at!

[Intrigued]

http://weblogs.asp.net/jobsblog/ stated he got a Microsoft job!

Him:

http://www.paradoxware.com/alstudio/cv/en.htm

and now...

http://www.paradoxware.com/alfans/2k5_en.htm

Go figure...

lmao

[Corey]

Yep, as an intern in software testing. I never scoffed at his testing skills, only his design skills. Seems to me the original resume was selling his animations/game art, and web site designs which are not very good. Testing interns at MS probably start under $30K so it's not exactly the jackpot, although the value of being able to be around so many experienced programmers at such a young age must be exciting.

Congratulations to him, I hope it works out well... :yes

[Intrigued]

Yep, as an intern in software testing. I never scoffed at his testing skills, only his design skills. Seems to me the original resume was selling his animations/game art, and web site designs which are not very good.

Congratulations to him anyhow, interning at MS is a step up from where he was no doubt. I hope it works out well for him... :yes
Corey, I would think M.S. would be banging down your door wayyy before his door. Thanks to your SF 7 Flash offering of recent.

I was always taught to keep it professional. Well, so much for that when you go for a professional status job.

*smacks forehead*

I am looking to have AMS 5 Pro, Flash MX 2004, and Photoshop CS create opportunities for me. As in, my well-to-do owned business platform. Then there is no back-side kissing or goofy resumes to submit. ;-)

[Corey]

I'm too "lone wolf" for MS. :)

Anyhow the thing about Nates CV which I want to see is how many people will follow suit. One thing I really do repsect about Nate is his energy. He went out and proved it could be done if you are willing to be aggressive about marketing yourself. He deserves a good job for that alone. I think the odds are that people are too lazy to do what he did, as I'm noticing there's no flood of Nate like CVs in light of MS hiring him. :)

So in the end I guess I was wrong. Nate's CV was good actually, just for different reasons than indicated, i.e. it sends out a clear message to the hiring people that "this guy has energy, motivation, and isn't sitting around waiting for a handout." I guess in today's hiring market motivation is getting so hard to find that this alone is enough to get you "in the door". I have to admire the kid's pluck. :yes

[Intrigued]

Anyhow the thing about Nates CV which I want to see is how many people will follow suit. One thing I really do repsect about Nate is his energy. He went out and proved it could be done if you are willing to be aggressive about marketing yourself. He deserves a good job for that alone. I think the odds are that people are too lazy to do what he did, as I'm noticing there's no flood of Nate like CVs in light of MS hiring him. :)

So in the end I guess I was wrong. Nate's CV was good actually, just for different reasons than indicated, i.e. it sends out a clear message to the hiring people that "this guy has energy, motivation, and isn't sitting around waiting for a handout." I guess in today's hiring market motivation is getting so hard to find that this alone is enough to get you "in the door". I have to admire the kid's pluck. :yes

Ha! I put a CD out for a company and they did not even look at it!

So, for me being aggressive on that level did zip for me. (note: it was their company's Website and what not on CD, so it was relevant)

Why I say I'll do this: "Beat 'em if you can't join 'em"

;-)

[Corey]

It's so tricky to sort out who's serious and who's just wasting your time. I certainly don't miss that aspect of freelancing. :)

[eric_darling]

Well put, Corey. I've learned I need to focus on weeding out the chaff - only doing business with clients who have money is of penultimate importance - just shy of hiring people who are better than I am at my burgeoning lines of service.

The discovery process with a new client is a tough art to master.

[Corey]

Viewing things in context of "yearly output" helps assuage the sting of the 5-10% who gyp you. Each gyp is a mini-learning experience too. My roomate Marv has a great saying about getting gyped, "University is never free." :)

[Intrigued]

No, the CD offering was in addition to a resume! I did it up above and beyond the resume! It was not for a client. Clients I can deal with simple by putting down the game rules up front.

My comments were towards the fellow that got a job because of that goofy online Flash resume.

:eek:

[Corey]

Well look at it this way, you wouldn't be where you are today if those people had been able to spot talent. :)

[eric_darling]

Corey,

It's not so much about getting ripped off directly, which is what I think you mean... It's all those indecisive ones that keep me lingering on. I spend as much as 15-20% of my time pitching clients who called me first. Of those, about 10% ever do anything of significant value with me. That is a terrible waste of time, since I'm also the primary means of output for my business. As time has passed, I've come to the resolution that I need to move more toward the account management side of my business and turn over more creative work to employees. But that's a long process, and I'm only now getting near the point where I can live with that.

So, I guess that's what I'm getting at there. I have to learn to cut and run.

[Corey]

Yeah poor choice of word on my part. Anyhow I know exactly what you both mean, believe me... It's such a tough game. When I used to freelance I ended up wasting about 20-25% of my time I figure. I never did get comfortable with that process. :yes

[AXXESS]

It's so tricky to sort out who's serious and who's just wasting your time.

Heh. Thats so true! I pitched a DVD production job to a local resort (that contacted me), supplied them w/excellent samples (which I found out that the "decision maker" never saw... those under him loved the samples).. corresponded on and off for a month or so... and it turns out they are just converting an old VHS they had done a while back to DVD (for free). We had never even discussed development costs.

Our field of work is most certainly not understood and is often under appreciated to be sure. Those that DO understand... clients for life! :yes

[Corey]

That's the worst when you find out the materials didn't even receive due consideration. :eek: